--- On Mon, 6/29/09, hrdiane <HRDiane@aol.com> wrote:
> From: hrdiane <HRDiane@aol.com>
> Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Seeing the forest from the trees
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 9:04 AM
> Babe,
> Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I "bounce" between
> #3 and #4. You provide good perspective and advice as
> have others.
>
> Especially the part about the less reliance on HET for my
> trips. I started that change last trip when I spent 4
> days at The Palms. First time I had stayed there
> although I had played twice before. My rooms were
> comped and I had plenty of food credits for my meals.
> I loved their choices of VP and as many have said,
> definitely better than HET.
>
> Next trip I will be at M (although I am disappointed to
> hear that even before I get there ----- this group has
> reported their VP downgrades). I called a host at M
> and explained my gambling and VP play and she immediately
> offered to comp me for 3 nights without having had any play
> there at all. Just faith that I was a VP player as I
> had described. It was cool to just call and get 3 free
> nites at a property I had never visited.
>
> Now, I will see if it works at GVR or Red Rock which are
> also places I have long wanted to visit.
>
> I wouldn't have done the cold call to the host without the
> urging of people from this group. So thanks to all.
>
> Diane
>
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com,
> "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Diane,
> >
> > There are many different "flavors" of players on this
> board. The main categories seem to be: 1) Professionals, who
> earn most of their income from gambling, 2) Serious,
> educated "Advantage Players", who endeavor to eek out the
> highest possible EV each time they risk their bankroll, 3)
> knowledgeable "Recreational Players" who, while usually
> seeking the highest payback and mostly sticking to correct
> strategy, occasionally play lower EV machines and deviate
> from proper holds strictly for the additional excitement of
> the play,
> > 4) Recreational players who, while knowledgeable in
> pay tables and
> > EV CHOOSE to play at casinos which have a less
> advantageous VP inventory, because of free rooms, airfare,
> junkets and food credit
> > offers, 5) The rare (on this board) total ploppies,
> who donn't know what or how to play, and care only about
> getting "into action", regardless of the consequences
> to their bankroll.
> >
> > I would assume that, from what you've posted, that you
> are probably
> > in the 3rd or 4th category, depending on
> circumstances, in terms of your VP play.
> >
> > I am in the 3rd category, personally, but I have
> friends who are solidily in the 4th category. Most of them
> are current or former Diamond or 4* HET players, who
> value(d) the excellent perks that HET offer(ed) their
> players, more highly than always playing the best EV
> machines. This is NOBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS! It's their choice,
> their vacation time and their bankroll. I am definitely a VP
> Libertarian!
> >
> > Please don't think for one minute that by playing
> inferior payback
> > machines, that you are causing the proliferation of
> poor VP. The casinos have always had tens of thousands of
> tourists who were more than willing to play anything that
> accepted money and dealt cards, and the casinos still
> offered positive VP back then.
> >
> > The unfortunate trend of downgrading pay tables that
> is so prevalent these days, is, IMO, the result of too many
> educated players, and too little discretationary income,
> that can be earmarked for recreational gambling.
> >
> > Please continue to have confidence in the gambling
> choices that YOU make, which suit YOUR particular desires
> and lifestyle, no matter how many posters may disrespect
> your decision or attempt to dissuade you. You are the ONLY
> one that should decide how you spend your time
> > and money.
> >
> > That being said, I would suggest that with the current
> state of flux in which HET finds it's finances and
> leadership, that it would be prudent to look into alternate
> gambling venues. While you may not
> > find another casino which offers as rich rewards to
> their loyal players, you can certainly find a casino that in
> addition to providing better VP opportunties, also
> offers generous comps, and great rooms and food.
> >
> > Good luck to you in whichever casinos you decide to
> favor with your
> > patronage!
> >
> > ~Babe~
> >
> ============================================================
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com,
> "hrdiane" <HRDiane@> wrote:
> >
> > Now I feel like I have become the "poster child" for
> stupid
> > gamblers who aren't willing to "work" really hard to
> find the
> > best games on the few days I have to spend in Las
> Vegas on VACATION.....
> >
> > Diane
> >
>
>
>
>
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