Wednesday, October 14, 2009

[vpFREE] Re: Joke Poker (Kings or Better) question (Unsuited AK > A,K or the other way?)

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Gilbert" <gilbert_616@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "HarryP" <harry.porter@> wrote:
> >
> > Gilbert wrote:
> > > WinPoker and Frugal VP Strategies show:
> > > Unsuited AK
> > > K
> > > A
> > >
> > > while vpgenius shows:
> > > K
> > > A
> > > Unsuited AK
> > >
> > > Which one is correct?
> >
> >
> > WinPoker and Frugal.
> >
> > All 3 sources show the same values associated with each of these holds, with the unsuited AK being the lowest valued hold. However, WP and Frugal rank the AK above the lone card holds.
> >
> > The actual lone K or lone A hold values when both A & K are present in the hand are actually lower than the general case values in the chart (fewer straight possibilities). WinPoker and Frugal are intelligent enough to tweak the strategy order to reflect this. vpgenius ranks strictly on the based of general "Avg Values", without this additional consideration.
> >
> > - Harry
> >
> ----------------------------------
>
> Thanks for the info, Harry!
>
> There are other slight differences (in strategy order) that I noticed between WinPoker and Frugal VP.
>
> Frugal Strategy order shows:
> - Joker + 7 (actually Frugal names it 'W' for Joker)
> - W + 8
> - W + 6
> - W + 10
> - W + 9
> - W + 5
>
> while
> WinPoker (Analyze Any Hand) shows:
> - W + 6 higher than W + 7
> where:
> W+6 valued at 7.3581
> W+7 valued at 7.3303
> or
> - W+6 higher than W+8
> W+6 valued at 7.3858
> W+8 valued at 7.2956
>
> and
> WinPoker also shows:
> W + 9 higher in order than W + 10
> where:
> W + 9 valued at 7.2965
> W + 10 valued at 7.2812
>
>
> Thanks again for your valuable inputs!
> Gilbert
>

If you want to compare "apples to apples", then use the feature in each program that will analyze a specific 5 card hand. In WP, that's the "Analyze Any Hand" option you've used. In FVP, it's "Strategy Charts"/"Create a Hand".

Give 5 specific cards, both programs should arrive at the same rankings.

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