Wednesday, March 27, 2013

RE: [vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas Hold'em players

+1

Cogno

-----Original Message-----
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpFREE@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:24 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: Luck versus Skill question for Iguana and Texas
Hold'em players

I have thoughts about the IGT bot. If you aren't a proven, successful
high-stakes heads-up limit hold'em player, I expect you to get slaughtered.

Ed

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:40 PM, nightoftheiguana2000 <
nightoftheiguana2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The variance of basic blackjack is something like 2, seems like
> hold'em should be some small multiple of that, I dunno, maybe 4 or 5,
> I think that kind of figure has been floated before. Sklansky's
> twoplustwo.com might have some info. Bob should get Sklansky on his
> radio show. Once you have the variance, the SD can be approximated as
> half the average pot times sqrt(variance x hands). Hold'em edges are
> usually expressed in terms of BigBlinds per hour, like 1-2BB/hour.
> Also, in hold'em, how you play effects the variance, there are plays
> that increase the variance and there are plays that decrease it, like
> "pot control". The igt bot is mostly a hyper-LAG and the best response
> to that is to call a lot but not raise a lot, that might give you some
> ideas of how to play. Hyper-LAG itself is a high variance strategy. Ed
> Miller, the "noted poker authority", used to be on this forum, maybe he
has some ideas of how to play the igt bot.
>
> Strategy discussion:
> http://www.lvrevealed.com/articles/research/selby.html
> http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/109/heads-up-limit/
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "kcace1024" <cy4873@...> wrote:
> >
> > The best EV game left at one of my local casinos may be the Head Up
> Texas Hold'em game. How many hands will I need to play to have a good
> estimate of the house or player edge? I guess the average pot size may
> be required to figure the variance?
> >
> > If I assume no edge (breakeven play) what is the equation to get the
> standard deviation for profit or loss after N hands. Can I use average
> pot size and treat it like N coin flips or does the variation in pot
> size affect the result. If I can play this game at breakeven then I
> can earn freeplay and comps.
> >
> > I found a robot to play Heads Up on the Kongregate web site. Does
> > anyone
> know of other robots I can play online for practice? Is there a basic
> strategy (like in blackjack) for playing robots heads up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> >
>
>
>


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