Thursday, October 15, 2009

Re: [vpFREE] XVP: Trip Report Las Vegas October 2009

Good report - Thanks!

I used to play a lot at the Hilton - there were hookers everywhere in there. You want to be flattered, but you know it might not last. sigh......I just don't have enough money to for a long term relationship with one of those gals......(-;

JW

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, straub4 <straub@shore.net> wrote:

> From: straub4 <straub@shore.net>
> Subject: [vpFREE] XVP: Trip Report Las Vegas October 2009
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 6:25 AM
> Las Vegas Trip Report October 2009
>
>
> SATURDAY Part 1
>
> This is my second trip to Vegas this year. The first was
> seven days in May with my wife. On this shorter three
> night/four day trip I went solo. I left Saturday morning
> from Manchester, NH via Southwest and had reservations at
> McCarran at Hertz (special AAA deal) for $80 and at Dollar
> for $100. Double reserved in case the line at Hertz counter
> was too long (no special Hertz membership), but I have
> Dollar Express. Upon arrival at the rent-a-car center, with
> thirty customers at the Hertz counter, I proceeded
> downstairs to the Dollar Express kiosk and got my Dollar
> reservation processed in about three minutes. Renting a
> mid-size, most were relatively new Kia's. I went around the
> outside of one to check for damages, and I noticed there was
> no license plate on the car. I know this is legal in NV, but
> I prefer a car with a plate on it. So I looked at all the
> rest of the Kia's and none had plates. So I grabbed a blue
> Subaru Legacy with Colorado plates figuring the Colorado
> plates would be easier to pinpoint in a parking lot or
> garage.
>
> Next, I headed to Suncoast Casino for the lunch buffet. I
> picked Suncoast because A) it was one of the few
> decently-rated buffets that I had never been to; B) my MRB
> coupon was good on a Saturday and allowed 50% off for one;
> and C) as usual, I had a cache of matchplays and freeplays
> (MPs and FPs) from ACG, and LVA, MRB. – and I had a
> Rampart $25 MP next door, a Suncoast $5 MP, and a Red Rock
> $20 coupon for free chips, which is nearby.
>
> I first went to Rampart and lost a $25 MP on red (black
> won), but did win $5 playing FPDW VP for about 10 minutes.
> At Suncoast, I turned a $5 bet with MP into a $15 win
> playing blackjack with a double down. At the Sun Coast
> buffet with the MRB coupon the cost was reduced from $8.00
> to $4.00 and the remaining $4.00 was covered with some old
> B-Connected points I did not know that I had (was told I had
> $5.00 in points).
>
> The buffet, which I thought would be better than Gold
> Coast's buffet, was not. I'd rate it a 3 or 4 out of 10.
> Nothing looked appetizing, the sliced beef was tough and the
> sliced turkey was dry and the selection of other stuff was
> not diverse. Regarding mid-priced buffets, I'd rate it a
> notch below Silverton and Orleans, and equivalent to Gold
> Coast and Palace Station. But not in the same league as Rio,
> GVR, or Red Rock.
>
> After lunch, I drove over to Red Rock to use my MRB (buy in
> for $100 and get $120 in chips) coupon. I assumed you'd get
> $120 in non negotiable chips for $100. But instead they give
> $20 in non-negotiable (must be played) chips and a
> negotiable $100 standard black chip. With the $20 in
> non-negotiable chips, I played $10 each on Red and Low
> (1-18) on the same roulette spin, but Black and High
> won.  I then went back to the cage cashed in my $100
> black chip and got my initial $100 back. So despite the
> hypothetical $20 in chip loss, I lost nothing. If you think
> about it, when they give the $100 chip and $20 in
> non-negotiable at the cage, you could just request they cash
> the $100 chip in then and you'd get your $100 back before
> even leaving the cage. I'm not complaining (it's more
> preferable to me than $120 in non-negotiable), but a Forest
> Gump saying comes to mind.
>
> Before leaving Red Rock, I played some FPDW and LDW VP at a
> mix of the $0.25 to $1.00 level. I played for a bit, but
> after a while left down $100.
>
> It was then time to check in to the LV Hilton on Paradise
> for three nights for $33 per night on a special USPS mailer
> offer (including a Saturday night stay).  At the
> check-in counter I laid my credit card, license, and a $20
> bill on the counter, but just slid the license and credit
> card (and not the $20) to the check in woman, and very
> nicely asked for a low floor, redesigned, North Tower (near
> the parking garage) room (if they had one available) even
> though the mailer stated it was for only a "Classic"
> (un-redesigned) room.
>
> She said in that category, she only had smoking rooms
> available on the lower floors. So I said, I'd take a higher
> floor non-smoking if everything else was met. She said it as
> was, and it also happened to be a strip view room.
>
> I thanked her for her "hard work" and gave her the $20. The
> room was very nice and the view wasn't bad except for the
> black half-finished monstrosity on LV Blvd and Riviera they
> call the Fontainebleau and the non-descript, City Center. A
> few things that stood out in a good way from there was Wynn,
> Encore and Trump as well as further down the strip, the New
> PH condo Tower, I believe it's called PH Westgate.
>
> After showering and changing, I went downstairs and played
> a $10 MP on red, but black won. Next I went to the
> Sportsbook area and played some LDW VP for awhile at the
> $0.25 and $1.00 level and lost $60.
>
> Eventually it was time to leave for the Cannery, where I
> had an inexpensive, but front row seat to see a Dionne
> Warwick concert at 8:00 PM. I think I was assigned a front
> row seat because I was only looking for a single ticket. The
> seat price was the same price as seats for many rows back.
> I've always liked her voice and songs (mostly Bachrach
> songs), and figured I'd catch her before she stop's touring
> completely. I hear part of her motivation in touring was to
> pay off $2 million in back taxes to the State of
> California.
>
> At the Cannery, before the concert, I played a $10 MP on BJ
> and lost but decided to play a few hands without a MP
> because the rules were decent and the minimums were low; but
> mainly I had time to kill before the concert. I lost another
> $15 and then found their FPDW VP machines and lost another
> $20.
>
> The show room at the Cannery is different from any other
> I've seen. The front one third is inside with a level floor,
> then the rest is outside consisting of round table seating
> in the front of the outside portion followed by inclining
> metal bleacher seats at the rear outside portion (the type
> you might see at the side of a small high school
> soccer/lacrosse field).
>
> Although the stage was pretty high (about four feet), the
> front row seats (that I was sitting in) were back from far
> enough from the stage so the view from the front row seat
> was fantastic. Dionne maintained eye contact with the
> audience throughout the concert, particularly with many of
> us in the front row.
>
> She did many of her hits and a few other songs and she and
> the band sounded great. The woman piano player (also the
> band leader) was very talented. Despite that the other
> instruments (except for drums and bass) were replicated by
> two keyboard synthesizer players (e.g., guitar, strings,
> brass, woodwinds, and harmonica), the instrumentation
> sounded authentic.
>
> The only downside was she kinda begged too much for
> applause particularly for her band members and the show was
> short (began at 8:12 PM and was done by 9:30 PM (and she did
> not come back for an encore).
>
> Since it wasn't late, after the show, I decided to drive to
> the Palms. Across from the Palms, I noticed there was a
> Sonic take out restaurant. In New England, where I live up
> until about a month ago, there were no Sonics and the people
> in New England who had been to Sonics in other parts of the
> country had high praise for them. Apparently the first few
> weeks they were open in New England there were long lines
> and traffic jams at the Sonic. Since I hadn't eaten since
> lunch and it was about 10:00 PM, I was hungry. Better still,
> I had a buy one Sonic burger, get one free coupon from MRB.
> So I had my first and second ever Sonic Burger.  I
> thought they were very good and were large. I also had a
> limeade, which was excellent.
>
> After, the burgers, I drove across the street to the Palms
> and the place was mobbed and I was treated to a view of the
> many good-looking, mostly skimpily clad, nubile women
> hanging out throughout the place. On a Saturday night, this
> is one of the best free shows in all of Vegas.
>
> To also pass the time there, I played a bit of $0.25 FPDW
> VP progressive, which conveniently provides an excellent
> view of the parade of lovelies waiting in line to get into
> the various clubs. This rates up there with the Bellagio
> fountain show for Saturday night entertainment (if you are
> with the wife stick to the fountains, they also may pay
> dividends).
>
> Two firsts occurred while I was there: 1) I got my first
> set of deuces ever at the Palms (paying $250); and 2) I got
> my first ever proposition from a hooker.
>
> Me:  (sitting at FPDW machine playing at a rate of
> about 800 hands per hours).
>
> Her: (sits at the adjacent machine, but is not playing and
> I notice she is thin, pretty, and well dressed. I figured
> she is just taking a load off her feet for a couple of
> minutes. I then notice how young she looks and I'm thinking
> she could pass for 16 and actually may be that young).
>
> So she says to me (with a very young and somewhat nervous
> and under-confident voice): "Are you winning?"
>
> Me: (thinking) Why is she talking to me? I'm fifty
> something with grey hair and overweight.
> Me: Replying: "No, how about you, are you winning?"
>
> Her: "No. . .   Are you here by yourself?"
>
> Me: (a bit shocked and now thinking, I'm pretty sure I know
> where this is going and thinking not only could I get busted
> for solicited a prostitute, but in this case probably run
> the risk of statuary rape of a minor and whatever else that
> goes along with it. Even if it was free -- and I wasn't
> married -- I still wouldn't risk it, as she really looked
> young enough to be jail bait.)
>
> But, anyway I respond: "Yes, I'm here by myself."
>
> Her: "Are you looking for a date?"
>
> Me: (thinking, I was right about her intentions and further
> thinking, "date", is that what they call it now? 
> Me:  (saying)  "No, no thanks."
>
> Her: "No problem at all. Bye."
>
> Me: "Bye"
>
> The good news is right after saying no, I got my first ever
> four deuces at the Palms FPDW machines (paying $250). In the
> end, I left up $200.
>
> I then went back to the Hilton and before hitting the hay
> (by myself) played some LDW VP for a while and won another
> $50.
>
>
>
> SUNDAY part 2
>
> Got up at the crack of dawn and went to the Peppermill for
> coffee and warm banana bread to go. I then drove out to the
> Rainbow Club Casino in downtown Henderson (coincidentally
> owned by the same people who own the Peppermill on the
> strip). It even looks a bit like it inside. The attraction
> here is the 10 coin $0.25 FPDW VP. No Player's Club, but
> still not a bad play and the machines are TITO. I've been
> playing here every trip for the past four years, but
> frustratingly have yet to hit four deuces here (or a royal).
> With 10 coin 25c play, four deuces pays $500. The bad news
> even after this trip, I still haven't gotten four deuces
> here, but the good news, that day I did get a royal
> instead.  In fact, this was my first-ever royal in five
> years of playing VP. So I got a W-2G;  20 - $100 bills,
> a free T-shirt (for the royal), and ultimately left up
> $1,900 (this time with two shirts instead of my usual loss
> of my shirt).
>
> From here, I drove over to GVR to watch the Red Sox (my
> home team) play the third game of the division series with
> the Angels. The Sox blew it. It was so discouraging the way
> they played, by the middle of 9th inning, I began rooting
> for the Angels to win. Based on how well the Angels played
> and how poorly the Sox played, the Angels deserved to win.
> Now only if the Angels can beat the Yankees, that would be
> great. While there, I also lost about $90 playing FPDW and
> LDW VP at the $0.25 to $1.00 level.
>
> After the game I decided to try a Wincard run. Wincards are
> available at three adjacent strip casinos: Mandalay Bay,
> Luxor, and Excalibur. Both MB and Luxor offered $30 in
> non-negotiable (must be played until lost chips) for $20 and
> Excalibur offered $15 in chips for $10. So, overall it's
> like getting $75 in chips for $50. The other motivation was
> that I've been to every casino on the strip, except for the
> Excalibur and the Encore, and I made sure this trip I would
> make it to both.
>
> The other nice feature is that there is a tram and a people
> mover to get you from and to these three casinos in
> relatively short time. I parked at MB and took the exterior
> tram to the Luxor and the interior people mover from Luxor
> to Excalibur and then the exterior tram back to MB. I
> couldn't hit much using the Wincard chips and even with the
> benefit of an added $25 in free Wincard chips, I still
> overall lost $20 in cash. Had I not taken the Wincard deal,
> however, I would have lost $45. So the Wincards saved me $25
> in losses.
>
> Since I hadn't eaten since about 6:00 AM, from there, I
> went to the Palms for a late lunch at the 24/7 Café,. I
> couldn't figure out what I wanted to eat and eventually
> decided on three eggs with bacon, home fries, and toast.
> With Fresh OJ and coffee, it came to $14, but I had an MRB
> Palms 50% off MRB coupon and some "old" points that covered
> the balance. While there, however, I lost $100 playing FPDW
> and LDW VP, but recouped $40 on two $10 MPs (one before
> lunch on roulette and one after lunch on BJ).
>
> From there it was a short drive east on Flamingo (across
> the strip) to Ellis Island and to Terrible's where two $10
> MPs netted me a $40 gain, followed by two more $10 MPS at
> the Hilton where I won one and lost one for a $10 gain. LDW
> VP at the $1.00 level at the Hilton followed, however, for a
> $200 loss.
>
> The good news: overall for the trip as of now, I'm still up
> $1,605.
>
>
>
>
> MONDAY part 3
>
> The day began at the Hilton with a $10 MP loss followed by
> a $20 VP loss. From there at Terrible's with a $10 MP and a
> BJ, I left with $25 in winnings, followed by a $20 win on a
> $10 MP at Ellis Island. Next I headed downtown, but on the
> way, made a quick stop at the Sahara for a $5 loss on a
> $5.00 MP.
>
> Downtown I parked at the Vegas Club garage. I noticed they
> were no longer collecting $5.00 at the parking garage kiosk
> and that they were using the back room as some sort of club
> with a stage (last time I was there it was empty). Tinnoco's
> have taken over what was the Great Moment's Room Restaurant,
> which then became the VC coffee shop. I've heard good things
> about Tinnoco's. 
>
> The most hilarious thing I saw was an arcade type game at
> the Vegas Club. It is the kind you see with the crane inside
> that comes down and you try to catch a prize (usually a
> stuffed animal). In this one there was the crane above
> hovering over a pool of live Maine lobsters. For $2.00 you
> could try to lift one out of the pool with the crane. If you
> succeeded you apparently could bring your lobster to
> Tinocco's or some other restaurant in the VC and they would
> cook it and serve it to you. Since I can get live and
> steamed whole lobsters at my local supermarket here along
> the coast of MA for about $5.00 each, I passed on this
> gamble.
>
> After going 2 for 4 playing MPs at the Vegas Club, Plaza,
> 4Queens, and Fitzgerald's, I netted about $10. But then I
> decided to check out some of the ancient Downtown Deuces
> machines in El Cortez AKA eC located in the room where the
> Subway exists. It was like playing on an Atari game as
> opposed to a Sony Playstation III. It was slow, the sound
> was primitive, and the screens reminded of an old 9"
> interlaced VGA computer screen of the late 1970s. Still, the
> pay scales were great with 4,700 for a royal, etc. So these
> actually paid better than FPDW at 100.9%. And despite not
> getting four deuces or better, I still managed to win $160
> quarters ($40) plus get my original $20 (80 quarters back),
> So I brought my 240 quarters to the cashier in a plastic cup
> and he also counted out 240 quarters and gave me $60. On the
> way back, I stopped at the Fremont and noticed they had FP
> Pick'Em, a game I play in CT at Mohegan Sun, They only had
> it at the 25c level, but feeling a bit nostalgic for home
> and knowing this game cold, I threw in $20 and couldn't seem
> to lose a hand. Although the best hand I hit was a full
> house, I still managed to walk away with 200 quarters ($50)
> in profit for a cash out of 280 quarters (since this machine
> was also not set up for TITO).
>
> From Downtown, I decided to take the drivable section of
> Fremont St. to Boulder Highway and stopped by the E. Cannery
> for lunch, a MP, and some FPDW with double points. I ate at
> Snap's coffee shop and had a chicken club sandwich with
> fries and a Diet Coke. The food and service were average,
> but again I had an MRB 50% off entrée coupon so saved a few
> bucks on that. Unfortunately after looking at the expected
> spot for the FPDW machines I couldn't find them there or
> anywhere near there. So decided to forego the VP and played
> a $10 MP on BJ. I got a BJ, but so did the dealer. After the
> push, on the next hand I was less lucky and left with a $10
> loss. From there, I bolted across the Highway to the
> Longhorn, where I had a $10 ACG MP and since they had some
> beneficial rules decided to play some straight up BJ (one
> advantageous rule is you can double on any two or any three
> cards). So for example if you were to be dealt a 3 and a 4
> and you took a hit and it was another 4 before taking your
> next hit you could double on the three cards totaling 11.
>
> Anyway, some guy was just finishing up a monster winning
> session when I sat down at a $3.00 minimum table and he had
> about $3,000 of $25 chips in front of him. Well apparently
> he used up all the good luck for the day there, as I lost
> seven hands in a row for a $40 loss and decided I'd had
> enough and left.. Before heading back to the Palm's (my home
> away from home). I decided to swing by Bill's to use a $10
> MP. I did and lost and then went to the Palms where I
> switched my play from FPDW to LDW. The LDW machines are
> located near the front door. The one I played was turned up
> very loud so each time I'd win people playing and dealing BJ
> across the aisle could hear every win.
>
> After a while it happened: I was dealt one deuce, I held
> it, and drew four cards, and three more deuces showed up and
> all hell broke loose. The machine wouldn't stop racking up
> the credits and the sounds and songs kept playing very
> loudly for about three solid minutes. Unlike FPDW that pays
> $250 for four deuces, LDW pays $625. For a five quarter
> game, that's quite a hit.
>
> As the song kept on playing loudly, the female BJ dealer
> just kept looking at me apparently knowing that I had hit it
> big. LDW is a great game when you hit four deuces, but when
> you don't, it can bleed your bankroll very quickly. After
> collecting my $625 ticket, I swaggered over to the BJ table
> and played a $10 MP and won that as well for a $20 win.
>
> I'm now up $2,220 for the trip.
>
> One other casino I had heard a lot about was the new "M"
> casino far south on LV Blvd. Being close to the I-15 I
> decided I'd take a spin down there to see what I could see.
> I took I-15 to the St Rose exit. It's very nice inside and
> out and looks in some ways like a smaller version of Red
> Rock casino: a lot of stone and marble and very cushy and
> colorful carpet. I tried to sign up for a player's card, but
> there were about 30 people in line. What's up with that?
> They've been open for some time now and this was on a Monday
> afternoon about 3:00 PM (maybe because it was Columbus Day
> and they also were handing out T-shirts to I assume new
> sign-ups?). I found the FPDW, but didn't play them because I
> didn't have a player's card. I walked around and noticed how
> busy the buffet was as well.  Back at the casino I got
> myself a free Diet Coke at the free soft drink dispenser,
> and then before leaving checked the line at the Player's
> Club again, but there were still about 20 people in line. So
> I left. FU "M" for not having enough people to handle
> player's club signups.
>
> From there I wanted to accomplish my goal of having been to
> every casino on the Strip, so the only one left was the
> Encore. I took the I-15 to Spring Mountain and then a left
> on the Strip and pulled into the self park lot in the back.
> The casino looks very much like the Wynn Casino but perhaps
> a little smaller and a little redder. I found a $1.00 8/5
> Bonus Poker VP machine and dropped in $100. I held my own
> for a while and put some decent coin in but eventually went
> through the $100.  Maybe I'll get a decent room offer
> in the future. The VP seats here are very comfortable and
> there are no nicer looking cocktail waitresses anywhere in
> Vegas.
>
> From Encore it was just a quick trip down the strip to
> Riviera Rd and then back to Hilton, where I played a $10 MP
> and lost and then went up to my room to get ready for the
> evenings activities..
>
> My plan was to go downtown and eat at the Fremont Buffet.
> I've heard some decent reports about it and I had a 50% off
> MRB coupon. Essentially it was similar to the Gold Coast,
> and Sun Coast but smaller with less of a selection. Luckily,
> it was prime rib night. And at least the Prime Rib was good
> and after seeing there was little else I was interested in,
> I coaxed the server into giving me a very thick slice. I
> also had a decent baked potato with it and although the
> salad bar was small, at least the standard veggies were
> fresh and that rounded out my meal: meat, potato and a basic
> salad. For $6.50 after the 50% discount, it was a decent
> deal, but if it weren't prime rib night, I'm not sure there
> would have been much that I would have liked there.
>
> I then played MPs at Fitz, 4 Queens, the Plaza, and Vegas
> Club for a net $12.50 win resulting from a $5.00 BJ on a
> $5.00 MP.  I also found an ancient 25c Downtown Deuces
> VP machine (100.9%) at the Vegas Club but couldn't hit
> anything on it and left with a quick $40 loss.
>
> From there, I decided to once again hit my home away from
> home, the Palms. Before pulling into the parking lot I did I
> quick stop across the street at Gold Coast as they had
> emailed me a free 3,000 point coupon if I stopped by there
> and redeemed it.  I quickly went to the player's club,
> got my points and was gone in flash. I think they are only
> worth about $3.00, but I was driving by there anyway. I find
> the people working at the Gold Coast very likable and
> unusually helpful and have gambled there in the past when
> the conditions were right.
>
> At the Palms, I just went sideways for a long time at FPDW
> and then did a $10 MP and made a straight BJ bet and somehow
> left with a $10 profit.  It was here I saw the
> stupidest BJ play I've ever seen (and this guy was not
> counting cards so you couldn't account for it because of
> that). The guy was dealt two 5s and the dealer was showing a
> 7.  The player slides more chips next to his initial
> bet, so the dealer says, are you doubling down on the 10?
> The guy says no, I want to split the 5s. Everyone at the
> table says are you f'in nuts. The guy says I know that's not
> what the book says but I want to split the 5s. The dealer
> tries to talk him out of it, but can't. The guy loses both
> hands. What a putz.
>
> I headed back to the Hilton to go back to my room for the
> night, but figured I better give the Hilton a little more
> play to ensure future room offers. So I played a mix of 25c
> and $1.00 LDW VP. I wasn't expecting to win but was just
> hoping not to lose too quickly or too much. It worked out
> and I gave them some decent play and only lost $80. On the
> way up to the room, I played my last $10 MP and won $20.
>
> So now I'm up $2,022 for the trip and I have a 12:30
> PM  flight  the next day, so I want to be at the
> car rental return by around 10:30 AM +-.
>
>
> Tuesday Finale
>
> The next morning I check out of the Hilton about 8:30 AM
> and at the Player's Club booth they give me $16 cash back,
> so now I'm up $2,038. I decide to drive over to Green Valley
> Ranch for breakfast as I had an MRB 50% off buffet coupon.
> I'm a big fan of their buffets and I was not disappointed:
> the room, the service, and the food were excellent and
> abundant. They had scrambled eggs pre-made four different
> ways, eggs benedict, an omelette station, pancakes, waffles,
> bagels with about four flavors of cream cheese, fresh
> donuts, muffins, fresh fruit ,and everything was fresh and
> delicious. If you order coffee, they bring you a whole pot
> and leave it at your table.
>
> After breakfast, since I was up about $40 above $2,000 I
> thought I'd play $40 of VP before I left to turn in the car.
> I played a mix of 25c FPDW and 50c and $1.00 LDW. After
> being up and down about $20, I was dealt a wild royal
> playing $1.00 LDW that would have paid $125, but it was made
> with three deuces. In LDW if you have three deuces you throw
> away the other two cards regardless of how good they are and
> this includes a SF, five of a kind, and even a wild royal.
> The reason is four deuces pays $2,500 instead of $1,000 if
> playing FPDW at the $1.00 level. I tossed the wild royal
> that would have paid $125 and only got four of a kind paying
> $20. What a killer!
>
> Anyway, I left losing the $40 and after gasing up the car,
> I headed east on I-215 to the rent-a-car return and made it
> to the SW gate in plenty of time. In the end I played 32 MPs
> at 19 casinos and won 15 and lost 17 and overall including
> VP and all other gambling activities came away winning about
> $2,000.
>
> ST
>
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