[vpFREE] XVP Re: Tipping

An indepedent host is one you will almost never find on property, they might not even be located in Vegas. Usually they work with several properties, usually independents like Hard Rock, Palms, Golden Nugget or they might work exclusively for a mega company like Harrah's. They must be licensed by in Nevada or at least approved as independent hosts by Gaming.

In Nevada, I think they must be compensated off theo, at some percentage, not win or loss. Many Indian tribes use the same independents and they are often paid only if you lose.

From a player standpoint, they are not best because if you need something on property, a host on property will give you the brushoff if you were brought in by an independent in many cases, but the same would apply if you were brought by a regional marketing person who was an employee, but say based in NYC or Dallas.

Who becomes independents?, burnt out older hosts who can't get a regular job, but the casino is willing to pay them on "contingency"
Sometimes the independents are good, but have problems working in a corporate enviornment because they are too entreprenuerial, but usually it is the former.

You cannot find an independent by accident, they find you - as newbie they won't but when you have been around for a while, your name ends up on everyone's mailing list, rolodex etc - hosts move around and soon you will be getting mail from hosts you have never met, but claim they met you at XXXX property - they stole a list on the way out the door - happens all the time.

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> ok, as a newbie, what is an "independent host?"
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> All my hosts are employees of the property or at least it appears that way.
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> Sorry to disagree with you on this one, but I work with an independent host, and when I mentioned this to her, she had a conniption. Attendants were instructed, or at least at that time they were, to pay in large bills, so as not to give the impression they were tip-fishing. If a customer needs smaller bills because they want to tip, or just prefer the payout that way they can ask for change of a large. If they don't at least ask before stuffing my pockets with small bills, they get nothing.
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> Incidentally, on the issue of being paid a jackpot in several large bills plus a few $20's, $10's, and $5's, I don't mind that -- if they give me all $100's, I figure they're asking for $100, and they get nothing -- if they give me small bills, I have the option to give them whatever I wish, from nothing on up (I do tip these people, but it's what many would consider a small amount, but on the other hand, some seem to consider any tip to these personnel to be too much, so maybe I'm somewhere in the middle).
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